Do you think this will end up being Marvel's best run of movies ever?
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Acrobatic_T-Rex2025-10-23 15:18
No.
Techno_Core2025-10-23 15:19
No.
ubutterscotchpine2025-10-23 15:20
Not a chance. It’ll always be the Infinity Saga.
Likewise, Thunderbolts* is in my top 5.
omrmajeed2025-10-23 15:20
wasabinski2025-10-23 15:20
Not at all. I don't think any run will top the lead up and conclusion to the Infinity Saga. That was peak MCU and I don't think we'll experience anything close to it again.
TestingBrokenGadgets2025-10-23 15:23
Yea. I think this might be the best run of post-Infinity Saga but as much as I enjoyed Fantastic Four and Thunderbolts, ain't no way is this run anywhere close to the peak.
EeveelutionistM2025-10-23 15:30
Everyone forgetting about Captain Marvel and Ant-Man 2 again
Edit: Just to be clear: I liked them, many didn't.
NuclearTheology2025-10-23 15:32
Captain Marvel was a smash. Now, how much of that impact was due to Endgame hype can be debated, but it was a success by every metric
BartleBossy2025-10-23 18:18
> but it was a success by every metric
Not every metric at all.
Its not a critical success, nor does the character seem to have any positive lasting legacy.
It was undeniably a *financial* success though.
Teganfff2025-10-23 15:33
We sure haven’t 🩷
Pyro_liska2025-10-23 15:35
Ant man 2 is the best out of all Ant man movies.
kneeco282025-10-23 15:22
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Coalas012025-10-23 15:35
There's only a handful of shows I can think of most notably Breaking Bad got better and better as the season went on, but in general, this is the rule
Sphezzle2025-10-23 15:41
True, but it also finished after 5 seasons (and the MCU got better and better up to IW/Endgame in a similar fashion). If breaking bad had a season 8 or 9, I’m not convinced the trend would have continued…
TheFirstSonOfTheSea2025-10-23 15:45
Better Call Saul was pretty good though
Bhavil172025-10-23 15:48
But that was like season -5
WOOKIExRAGE2025-10-23 16:07
A prequel, if you will.
TheCVR123YT2025-10-23 16:21
A prequel you can’t really watch until you watch the original because it’s more of a pre sequel
WOOKIExRAGE2025-10-23 16:27
Very true. Currently rewatching it with my son. We’re in the final season and we are one episode away from Lalo and Howard meeting. It’s gonna be a surprise to him for sure. I know I was quite surprised and shocked.
HomsarWasRight2025-10-23 16:44
One of the few that I think actually added something to the original. I’m almost never in favor of prequels.
nukemypup2025-10-23 15:48
i love how the conversation immediately derailed into us admiring Breaking Bad
chazzer20mystic2025-10-23 15:56
Truly, Bravo Vince
homiej4202025-10-23 16:09
Man BCS was so good though, the later seasons were essentially just alternate/extensions of BB seasons anyway so you can say they got away with doing probably 8 seasons of breaking bad, and almost all of it was awesome (first few seasons of saul were kinda slow but then when it went off the road it was incredible)
tokenasian12025-10-23 16:45
The wild thing was that Breaking Bad really didn't need to be continued. The story told in BB was wrapped up and completed.
But Vince decided to return to cook in not only Better Call Saul but also El Camino. I'm at the point where if Vince wanted to return to the world of BB and do a movie featuring Badger and Skinny Pete, I'm there.
All roads lead to Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul.
I don't know if it's my absolute favorite television series / franchise of all time but it's up there.
BigDaddyUKW2025-10-23 20:18
These conversations spontaneously occur within so many different fandoms, it's hilarious...
labbla2025-10-23 15:54
Yes, but that's mostly a different take on the universe. More focused on con man lawyers than drug deals. Kim Wexler is a huge character and did not exist in Breaking Bad.
If it was season 7 or so of Walt & Jesse still doing the meth game outwitting yet another villain it would be very tired.
Sphezzle2025-10-23 19:07
No argument from me, it was terrific
koinkydink2025-10-23 15:44
Agree. It’s a really a hit or miss for them now, if anything. MCU peaked in the Infinity Saga for me.
WOOKIExRAGE2025-10-23 16:21
It was definitely at its absolute best during IW and Endgame, but there has been some really good content post Endgame. Spider-Man: No Way Home, Wandavision, Shang Chi, Agatha All Along, Thunderbolts*, and Fantastic Four were all excellent. I’m definitely missing some in my list but you get the point. I have no expectations for Doomsday and Secret Wars but the Spider-Man films have always cooked and I’m hoping that Secret Wars leads to the symbiote saga and we finally get a proper Venom in the MCU. Tom Hardy was good but I’d *LOVE* to see someone like Alan Richson take on the role. He’s got the build to play Venom without having to make him completely CGI. They could probably make him a little bit bigger but it wouldn’t be required as he’s already a towering beefcastle. In reality, I just want Richson to get an MCU role. I thought he would have been an awesome Sentry but I was pleasantly surprised by Lewis Pullman. He was great. They have definitely had some missteps since Endgame but it really feels like they’re starting to turn it around now with the recent output. Thunderbolts is definitely a favorite for me. Fantastic Four was excellent as well. I think they have the right chefs in the kitchen. I say let them cook. Hopefully we’ll be eating good in the next few years and beyond.
Mindless-Product-5782025-10-23 15:49
I mean at this point it's really following the route of comic books, you're tuning in the same way you read new comics of familiar characters who at most have pretty good/okay runs all around nowadays but rarely something to define the characters for the current generation. While I wish this wasn't the case for either mediums, it was always gonna be a self fulfilling prophecy for a long running interconnected series of media. The post secret war's soft reboot will be like any other restart in comics
jmdg0072025-10-23 19:30
I feel the difference is Comics are relatively cheap to make. They can't expect to go down this route without scaling back the budget for a lot of the non even films.
andyman2342025-10-23 16:01
I saw both thunderbolts and FF. Both were good and I thoroughly enjoyed both, but neither hit the peaks of the infinity saga. Not sure I’d include either in my top 10 marvel movies. Maybe top 15, would have to think pretty hard about that.
Gilded-Mongoose2025-10-23 17:08
What exactly are you saying here?
ryanjcam2025-10-23 15:22
Absolutely not. The two released so far from this image aren't even among the strongest 2-film runs...
thesagaconts2025-10-23 15:33
Exactly. People want them to be hits so bad but they are not. You don’t see thunderbolt or f4 shirts. No one at work talks about them. The sub loves those movies and that’s expected from here. The rest of the world didn’t care enough to spend money on the theater to watch them.
FatBoyWithTheChain2025-10-23 15:22
No. Literally every movie in Phase 3 was both a financial and critical smash
That’s not to shit on any of the above movies but more of a reflection of how insane Phase 3 was
OnlinePosterPerson2025-10-23 15:32
Cap marvel
TheLateThagSimmons2025-10-23 15:37
Seriously, this has been and looks to continue to be a pretty decent stretch, and it's a surprise given the post-Infinity War dip.
But let's not delude ourselves into forgetting how successful and awesome the majority of Phase 3 was.
thortmb2025-10-23 16:40
I think he meant rating wise. Clearly box office cant believe matched to phase 3.
kickedoutatone2025-10-23 18:00
It's the same scenario.
RavingRationality2025-10-23 16:46
Personally, while this is entirely subjective, I think the best two movies in the entire franchise are in Phase 2.
zzyul2025-10-23 18:45
The first Guardians and Winter Soldier? Those were great movies.
AlmightyLoaf542025-10-23 15:23
I think so
Im_Indonesian2025-10-23 15:23
tokenasian12025-10-23 15:24
i want whatever you’re smoking
____mynameis____2025-10-23 15:24
Not when Phase 3 MCU exists.
No franchise will ever be able to top that. Not MCU, not DCU. Even if these movies end up being legitimately top tier.
errorsniper2025-10-23 16:54
Yeah might be a little rose tinted, but imo its up there with lotr, Harry Potter, terminator, ghostbusters, bttf, shawshenk, ect caliber of movies. It wasn't just a few good movies. It was a cultural event. They are classics.
BatmanForever232025-10-23 15:24
It won't be close, sorry.
Boring-Zucchini-85152025-10-23 15:25
Fantastic Four is like Top 5 MCU movies of all time level good, but I have no faith in the Avengers movies.
mr90252025-10-23 15:30
Had to check if you were a rage-bait bot. Glad you enjoyed ff though.
Boring-Zucchini-85152025-10-23 15:31
Why would that even be range bait? FF was excellent.
Tidus47132025-10-23 15:25
I'm really not sold on X-Men at all. Realistically it's never been a big box office hit outside of the solo Wolverine and Deadpool movies. The last few were pretty bad. I'll try to remain optimistic but a lot is riding on that movie. I just don't want them trying to do something different instead of what fans actually want.
Vlorious_The_Okay2025-10-23 15:32
I did like the x-men movies (well, the first few), didn't bother with the last set. Regardless... I can't keep caring about this many characters. And if someone who joined this reddit can't then you know the general populace isn't going to either. And X-men is all about lots more characters. I know I'm losing my cred, but it's just a bit much.
mr90252025-10-23 15:33
You must be young. The first one did $293 mill in 2000. Very successful. Second one did $400. Top 10 box office of the year. The entire franchise has generated 2.5 billion. It’s a solid franchise sales-wise. The quality went up and down but it sold.
labbla2025-10-23 15:27
No
MonsieurAK2025-10-23 15:28
I gotta ask how old OP was during Phase 3 because this question shouldn't even be a thought
TheDeadalus2025-10-23 15:37
yeh my thought exactly. If they are 16 or something then I get it.
boukalele2025-10-23 16:19
This reminds me of the fake tweet meme thing that went around years ago about someone saying unknown artist Paul McCartney was going to blow up thanks to Kanye
Adorable_Spell75622025-10-23 16:49
i don't know about OP, but Through out phase 3 i was 9 to 12 and i still disagree with OP very much.
TheDeadalus2025-10-23 22:02
Oh great! I'm 29 so I'm kind of the perfect age to have grown up with the infinity saga. I was about 12 years old when Iron man 1 came out so as you can imagine I thought it was the coolest thing ever.
JashSmash2025-10-23 15:29
Maybe. I guess we’ll know when we find out.
simpletonclass2025-10-23 15:29
Stop being delulu about X-men. It’s not happening til maybe 2030.
demonoddy2025-10-23 15:40
It’s literally already being written and has a director. It’s coming in 2028
simpletonclass2025-10-23 15:55
lol what a summer release after secret wars. Sure Jan
demonoddy2025-10-23 16:00
Yeah what’s wrong with that ?
hiphophooray1252025-10-23 15:29
no matter what, the fans won't allow it to be. even if the movies are 10/10, the fans will find something to complain about.
Business_Sand95542025-10-23 15:29
Not a chance lol
DavidEDavid222025-10-23 15:30
U must have been top of ur class OP
Joranthalus2025-10-23 15:30
They should have just recasted Kang…
EntrepreneurAble66562025-10-23 15:31
No. Thunderbolts is good but F4 is an average film and y’all asked the same shit for 2022 and 2023…
CFL_lightbulb2025-10-23 15:53
I’m the opposite. I thought thunderbolts was fine, but really liked F4
El_Quetzal2025-10-23 16:04
Yeah, thunderbolts was great but F4 was such a let down, specially with the bad casting, specially reed and sue
dacrookster2025-10-23 16:26
Casting is really good. The actual film itself is just a bit "meh". So many cool things that they gently introduce that could have been really cool and then they just do absolutely nothing with it, and then top it off with this just... Bland final fight.
El_Quetzal2025-10-23 16:35
Maybe they should recast them really soon
CleanAspect64662025-10-23 20:11
I swear the gassing up of F4 was more about people wanting it to make a good profit for the 'Marvel is back baby' rhetoric, the film was so dull but post release people were acting like it was one of the best things Marvel has ever done
labbla2025-10-23 17:13
I really wish F4 didn't do Silver Surfer & Galactus again. Should have focused on Mole Man and Red Ghost and other crazy stuff we've never seen in a F4 movie before. The movie also really wanted us to care about the characters and world without giving us time to know them first. It would have been a better movie if they weren't racing towards Doomsday.
KS_JR_2025-10-23 15:31
I though thunderbolts wasn't very good.
Teganfff2025-10-23 15:32
No but they’ll still be, well, fantastic!
We (and this extends to all types of fandoms in all areas of entertainment) have to really stop the mentality of “the newest one HAS to be the best one of all time.”
KS_JR_2025-10-23 15:33
Civil War to Infinity War is 7 great movies in a row.
ViralGameover2025-10-23 15:33
It’ll be hard to top the run of Guardians 2, Spider-Man Homecoming, Thor Ragnarok, Black Panther and Infinity War.
Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four are strong entries though, if they keep up the momentum and quality they certainly could.
Acrobatic_T-Rex2025-10-23 15:33
It is insane to me, that two half decent movies, and 4 that havent even released trailers yet, are being hailed as the "best run of marvel movies" I think after the last 5 years, the question should be, "what are the odds that all of these movies are actually good"
No-Today-24592025-10-23 15:33
nothing is topping the run they had in phase 3
JSDoctor2025-10-23 15:33
Best run of 6 so far is probably Doctor Strange, GOTG2, Spider-Man Homecoming, Thor Ragnarok, BP, and Infinity War, right? That'll be very hard to beat, though it's possible.
Although honestly the most recent 6 (GOTG3, The Marvels, D&W, CA:BNW, Thunderbolts, F4) is a really solid set IMO, though I rate The Marvels higher than most people do. BNW is the only real miss in there for me.
CROBBY22025-10-23 15:57
That Doctor Strange to Infinity War run is absolutely insane.
DRICH22222025-10-23 16:09
Facts, and you could go back even further than that to include The Winter Soldier, GOTG, Age of Ultron, Ant Man, and Civil War
JSDoctor2025-10-23 16:18
Absolutely could go further back and forth, but I was sticking with 6 to make a like-for-like comparison with OP.
DirectConsequence122025-10-23 15:34
No.
There is a higher chance that Doomsday will be bad than good.
centerwingpolitics2025-10-23 15:34
Quality wise yes. Financially probably not.
Coalas012025-10-23 15:34
Nope, I do this this will be a sort of renaissance era though. Nothing beats phase 3
level1gamer2025-10-23 15:34
The run from Ant-Man to Avengers: Endgame will probably never be topped.
Plenty-Salary97112025-10-23 15:35
Definitely not but without a doubt the best run post-infinity sage for sure. Not tryna compare but this run of movies is definitely better than the dcu’s current(upcoming)slate by a wide margin.
Iroquois-P2025-10-23 15:35
It already isn't
fakeplasticlou2025-10-23 15:36
No, lol.
SeniorDaikon70382025-10-23 15:36
The current gold standard of runs in the MCU is Civil War to Infinity War.
Will Thunderbolts to Secret Wars alone be enough to top it? Probably not. However, post secret wars once the phase 7 line up is officially announced, there might be a discussion to have.
popculturerss2025-10-23 15:36
Nope
Caciulacdlac2025-10-23 15:37
X-Men won't be the first movie after Secret Wars
Oilswell2025-10-23 15:38
Probably not. I loved Thunderbolts but FF didn’t do anything for me. I’m excited for spider-man but don’t have a lot of faith in them pulling off a decent avengers movie. Very nervous that they’ll ruin X-Men.
knotsteve2025-10-23 15:38
Since we have not seen 4 of them, and I have some serious concerns about Doomsday and Secret Wars, I think there is only a tiny chance of this being a legendary run.
demonoddy2025-10-23 15:39
Money wise no because thunderbolts and fantastic 4 didn’t do amazing. That being said critically speaking they are in a good spot.
Spider-Man brand new day and on marvel will be in a very good spot critically and financially. If they do blade and some other big projects after X-men then we are in for a treat
bobthemusicindustry2025-10-23 15:39
Lmao already gassing up movies that are months away with no guarantee of quality. This is exactly what we need to not do
powerslut90902025-10-23 15:40
Not even close to phase 3 through Endgame.
DarthGodzilla19952025-10-23 15:40
I doubt phase 3 will be topped
Criminal_picklejuice2025-10-23 15:40
Suggesting "best anything" when you start the list with Thunderbolts and F4 is clownish.
changelingcd2025-10-23 15:41
It seems highly unlikely, but maybe that's just my own waning interest.
PassiveF1st2025-10-23 15:41
The 11 films from Winter Soldier to Infinity War is just peak MCU for me and I doubt they will ever be eclipsed.
I'll be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong.
SDLRob2025-10-23 15:41
Ever? No... Too much bad blood and Internet brigading going on for this to be their best run ever...
But, I definitely feel the first two movies are highly underrated and the rest have potential to be great movies.
Running2vermin2025-10-23 15:42
Quality-wise, I think it will be great, but financially, given this year... not so much.
One thing that I feel will make or break this saga is the quality of the Dr Doom versus Sentry fight and other significant showdowns and scenes. I'm expecting a Mahoraga vs Sukuna type fights and NWH condo scene-level tension in Doomsday. Anything short of that or a repeat of Infinity War Vision and Hulk vs Thanos, the turnout rate will drop indefinitely.
For this to even be close to the 2018 hype, they must go all out or go home.
CasualRead_432025-10-23 15:43
No chance.
Zelectrolyte2025-10-23 15:43
Looks like the makings of a good run, but I concur that Phase 3 won't be topped by this phase.
Maybe next phase?
Airconditioning-inc2025-10-23 15:43
If Doomsday is actually good it will be a miracle. And I could not care less about Secret Wars at this point.
I’m so done with the Multiverse Saga and it’s constant nostalgia bait and I just want things to move on. I wish they would just wrap it up with Doomsday and merge 616 with the Fantastic 4 and X-men universes and call it a day.
I think it’s ridiculous that they’re still even trying to make Secret Wars at all. Deadpool and Wolverine was already kind of a Secret Wars story, so do we really need another one?
That being said, I actually adored Thunderbolts, and I thought Fantastic 4 was good, albeit pretty flawed—me personally I just head cannon it as a sequel to the 1994 one which somehow fixes a lot of my problems of it.
But anyway, No, I don’t think this is Marvels best run, that’s probably Winter Soldier—Endgame, because all of those movies were good, and all of them were successful.
AloyAlphaprime20742025-10-23 15:43
If they can stick the landing with Spider-Man and Avengers Doomsday and Secret Wars, it could be the best unbroken streak of films.
Is X-Men confirmed to be the next film after Secret Wars?
AnySpirit6482025-10-23 15:44
Quality wise has a very very good chance
Smooth-Mix-43572025-10-23 15:44
Phase 3 starting from idk Civil War till Endgame was really good it was hard to top that. Amazingly enough Phase 3 covered up for Phase 2 which was average at best.
ddanuu2025-10-23 15:45
No way in hell. Thunderbolts was amazing but had way to many show connections, Fantastic 4 was good not great and honestly bits the set design and decor that made the movie seem really great, Spider-Man will be amazing but that’s one movie. The next two avengers have had pretty much zero build and secret wars will most likely be a slosh fear of cameos and we have no clue what’s happening with the X-Men. And on top of all that we have Phase 3
thevokplusminus2025-10-23 15:45
I wish i could be this delusional
blodyn__tatws2025-10-23 15:46
Too soon to tell since I've only seen Thunderbolts and Fantastic 4 of this run. Loved Thunderbolts. Fantastic 4 was just ok. Have to say, the Captain America First Avenger - The Winter Soldier - Civil War....those were quite perfect. Hard to top.
Pale_Selection_32682025-10-23 15:46
Captain marvel, ragnarok, gotg 2, IW and Endgame>
Awkward-Fox-14352025-10-23 15:46
Their best run ever is obviously in the past.
GrownManNamedFinger2025-10-23 15:47
Fantastic Four wasn't all that good so I don't think so
mramnesia82025-10-23 15:47
Infinity War and Endgame curbstomps anything that has been, and will be, released after them
TheRealOcsiban2025-10-23 15:47
FairEnoughRoD2025-10-23 15:49
No
Undercover-nerd-dad2025-10-23 15:50
Not even kind of. The best is behind us this is just the last major squeeze for money it will be able to get while still being successful by cost v box office metrics. I could see a down trend in this season of superheroes. It’s been going strong for a while but nothing last forever and I think the run beginning with iron man and concluding with endgame was a perfect storm for superhero’s and movies.
gotham19992025-10-23 15:51
Seems like it 👍🏽
uncannynerddad2025-10-23 15:52
Most definitely not. You’re dreaming if you believe so. Nothing will recapture the feeling from Infinity War to Endgame.
Maximum-Group59332025-10-23 15:52
Thunderbolts is 5/10 and financial disaster, f4 is 3/10 and financial nightmare. If the script stay this low and by low I mean resurrecting iron doom, the whole marvel universe is rushing to its end and we have primal seats
jimmy_jim19842025-10-23 15:53
It's already not though
BabyBiden2025-10-23 15:54
A question so unhinged I thought this was the circle jerk sub
Careful_Scratch_71692025-10-23 15:55
Thunderbolts was peak. F4 was ok, but predictable , seeing doom at the end was pure hype tho iCloud. Psyched for doomsday
elvinjoker2025-10-23 15:57
Where is brave new world?
AwarenessOk77482025-10-23 15:59
Obviously not. The Thunderbolts are still okay, but they could be much better. F4 is a disappointment. Spider-Man will unfortunately be bad in the story (Hulk's degradation, the devaluation of the NWH ending). The only hope is the Avengers.
ohdannyboy732025-10-23 16:00
No, it already started half assed.
Soggy-University-5242025-10-23 16:01
Quality wise I actually think there’s an argument but that might be a hot take. However only 2 of these 6 movies has even been released so far.
Success wise, like others said, no. And there never will be that type of success again. Unfortunately Marvel and Disney really fucked themselves over when they consistently put out lackluster content for essentially 4 years. Yes, there were some things out of their control, but they’re one of the biggest studios in the world. They should know how to adapt to change. I’m not all that sympathetic.
I think Marvel can have a renaissance in quality though.
IamBecomeZen2025-10-23 16:01
No
travisth152025-10-23 16:02
Bro what? These are all lowkey ass compared to 2015-2019 run
John_Wicked12025-10-23 16:02
I think they can find success but I doubt anything will top the OG run anytime soon.
BadMotherFunko2025-10-23 16:04
Impossible. Thunderbolts was fine but F4 was a huge dissapointment
Don-Dyer2025-10-23 16:07
The mcu will never return to the heights of endgame.
Specialist_Ad40732025-10-23 16:17
Might be Marvels last movies ever if they dont perform well enough lol
I say that jokingly, but if they took a 10 year break after Secret Wars kinda how Disney did with Star Wars, I think it would be good for the brand
Single_Dirt_54502025-10-23 16:18
Doomsday and Secret Wars will be shit
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Nscope902025-10-23 20:30
The MCU has had its hay day.
The studio spearheaded so many comic book movie innovations and absolutely laid down THE masterclass on building a cinematic comics universe.
Not unlike the Beatles, we had roughly 10 years of output that was incredibly strong for the most part and then things went awry. They threw way too many ideas at the wall and took their eye off the ball.
With all of that said, its nice to see that things seem to be tightening up, and hopefully that means we're on our way back to seeing a higher quality bar in general. I like both of the movies we've In seen in your lineup OP, but in terms of the potential for their commercial success, the feats of the past will never be repeated.
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Likewise, Thunderbolts* is in my top 5.
Edit: Just to be clear: I liked them, many didn't.
Not every metric at all.
Its not a critical success, nor does the character seem to have any positive lasting legacy.
It was undeniably a *financial* success though.
But Vince decided to return to cook in not only Better Call Saul but also El Camino. I'm at the point where if Vince wanted to return to the world of BB and do a movie featuring Badger and Skinny Pete, I'm there.
This is how they programmed us
I don't know if it's my absolute favorite television series / franchise of all time but it's up there.
If it was season 7 or so of Walt & Jesse still doing the meth game outwitting yet another villain it would be very tired.
That’s not to shit on any of the above movies but more of a reflection of how insane Phase 3 was
But let's not delude ourselves into forgetting how successful and awesome the majority of Phase 3 was.
No franchise will ever be able to top that. Not MCU, not DCU. Even if these movies end up being legitimately top tier.
We (and this extends to all types of fandoms in all areas of entertainment) have to really stop the mentality of “the newest one HAS to be the best one of all time.”
Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four are strong entries though, if they keep up the momentum and quality they certainly could.
Although honestly the most recent 6 (GOTG3, The Marvels, D&W, CA:BNW, Thunderbolts, F4) is a really solid set IMO, though I rate The Marvels higher than most people do. BNW is the only real miss in there for me.
There is a higher chance that Doomsday will be bad than good.
Will Thunderbolts to Secret Wars alone be enough to top it? Probably not. However, post secret wars once the phase 7 line up is officially announced, there might be a discussion to have.
Spider-Man brand new day and on marvel will be in a very good spot critically and financially. If they do blade and some other big projects after X-men then we are in for a treat
I'll be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong.
But, I definitely feel the first two movies are highly underrated and the rest have potential to be great movies.
One thing that I feel will make or break this saga is the quality of the Dr Doom versus Sentry fight and other significant showdowns and scenes. I'm expecting a Mahoraga vs Sukuna type fights and NWH condo scene-level tension in Doomsday. Anything short of that or a repeat of Infinity War Vision and Hulk vs Thanos, the turnout rate will drop indefinitely.
For this to even be close to the 2018 hype, they must go all out or go home.
Maybe next phase?
I’m so done with the Multiverse Saga and it’s constant nostalgia bait and I just want things to move on. I wish they would just wrap it up with Doomsday and merge 616 with the Fantastic 4 and X-men universes and call it a day.
I think it’s ridiculous that they’re still even trying to make Secret Wars at all. Deadpool and Wolverine was already kind of a Secret Wars story, so do we really need another one?
That being said, I actually adored Thunderbolts, and I thought Fantastic 4 was good, albeit pretty flawed—me personally I just head cannon it as a sequel to the 1994 one which somehow fixes a lot of my problems of it.
But anyway, No, I don’t think this is Marvels best run, that’s probably Winter Soldier—Endgame, because all of those movies were good, and all of them were successful.
Is X-Men confirmed to be the next film after Secret Wars?
Success wise, like others said, no. And there never will be that type of success again. Unfortunately Marvel and Disney really fucked themselves over when they consistently put out lackluster content for essentially 4 years. Yes, there were some things out of their control, but they’re one of the biggest studios in the world. They should know how to adapt to change. I’m not all that sympathetic.
I think Marvel can have a renaissance in quality though.
I say that jokingly, but if they took a 10 year break after Secret Wars kinda how Disney did with Star Wars, I think it would be good for the brand
If you're asking an open-ended question, try to add your own personal answer and the reasoning.
The studio spearheaded so many comic book movie innovations and absolutely laid down THE masterclass on building a cinematic comics universe.
Not unlike the Beatles, we had roughly 10 years of output that was incredibly strong for the most part and then things went awry. They threw way too many ideas at the wall and took their eye off the ball.
With all of that said, its nice to see that things seem to be tightening up, and hopefully that means we're on our way back to seeing a higher quality bar in general. I like both of the movies we've In seen in your lineup OP, but in terms of the potential for their commercial success, the feats of the past will never be repeated.